{"id":16557,"date":"2016-06-18T09:43:30","date_gmt":"2016-06-18T08:43:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=16557"},"modified":"2016-06-18T09:43:30","modified_gmt":"2016-06-18T08:43:30","slug":"why-is-the-carbonyl-ir-stretch-in-an-ester-higher-than-in-a-ketone-crystal-structure-data-mining","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?p=16557","title":{"rendered":"Why is the carbonyl IR stretch in an ester higher than in a ketone: crystal structure data mining."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"16557\">\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=9606\" target=\"_blank\">In this post<\/a>, I pondered upon the C=O infra-red spectroscopic\u00a0properties of esters, and showed three possible electronic influences:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9607\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=9607\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-orig-size=\"\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"[]\" data-image-title=\"s-cis-ester1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9607\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" alt=\"s-cis-ester1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The red (and blue) arrows imply the C-O bond might shorten and the C=O bond would lengthen; the green the reverse. So time for a search of the crystal structure database as a reality check. The query is as follows:<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9607\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=9607\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-orig-size=\"\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"[]\" data-image-title=\"s-cis-ester1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9607\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/amides-sq.jpg?w=400\" alt=\"s-cis-ester1\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>The response shows the bimodal distribution with as expected the<em> s-cis<\/em> conformation dominating. There is indeed a hint that for the <em>s-cis<\/em>, the C-O distance is rather shorter than for the <em>s-trans<\/em> conformation.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9607\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=9607\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-orig-size=\"\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"[]\" data-image-title=\"s-cis-ester1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9607\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/amides-all.jpg?w=440\" alt=\"s-cis-ester1\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>Repeating the search, but specifying that the temperature of data acquisition is &lt; 90K, one gets a much clearer indication of the difference in bond lengths.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9607\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=9607\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-orig-size=\"\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"[]\" data-image-title=\"s-cis-ester1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9607\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/amides-90.jpg?w=440\" alt=\"s-cis-ester1\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>This alternative representation shows the C-O and the C=O distances, with red indicating <em>s-trans<\/em> and blue indicating <em>s-cis<\/em> conformations (T &lt; 140K). The red dots occupy a bottom right cluster for which the C-O distance is longer and the C=O shorter than the corresponding blue cluster.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9607\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=9607\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-orig-size=\"\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"[]\" data-image-title=\"s-cis-ester1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9607\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/amides-1vs2-140.jpg?w=440\" alt=\"s-cis-ester1\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>Again reducing the temperature of data collection to &lt; 90K shows a rather weak inverse correlation between the two distances for eg the blue dots.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9607\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=9607\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-orig-size=\"\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"[]\" data-image-title=\"s-cis-ester1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/s-cis-ester1.svg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9607\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/amides-1vs2-90.jpg?w=440\" alt=\"s-cis-ester1\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>A shame however that this database does not hold IR values for the carbonyl stretches. I am sure correlations must exist, but how to get at them (other than manual collection of data).<\/p>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 16557 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this post, I pondered upon the C=O infra-red spectroscopic\u00a0properties of esters, and showed three possible electronic influences: The red (and blue) arrows imply the C-O bond might shorten and the C=O bond would lengthen; the green the reverse. So time for a search of the crystal structure database as a reality check. 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