{"id":25227,"date":"2022-06-11T07:24:19","date_gmt":"2022-06-11T06:24:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=25227"},"modified":"2022-06-11T07:24:19","modified_gmt":"2022-06-11T06:24:19","slug":"checking-a-conclusion-we-made-in-1987-tetrahedral-intermediates-formed-by-nitrogen-and-oxygen-attack-of-aromatic-hydroxylamines-on-acetyl-cyanide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?p=25227","title":{"rendered":"Checking a conclusion we made in 1987:  Tetrahedral intermediates formed by nitrogen and oxygen attack of aromatic hydroxylamines on acetyl cyanide"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"25227\">\n<p>Minds (and memories) can work in wonderful ways. In 1987<span id=\"cite_ITEM-25227-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-25227-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span> we were looking at the properties of &#8220;stable&#8221; tetrahedral intermediates formed in carbonyl group reactions. The reaction involved adding phenylhydroxylamine to acetyl cyanide. NMR signals for two new species were detected, and we surmised one was due to N-attack on the carbonyl and one was due to O-attack, in each case <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=6044\">to form a stable tetrahedral intermediate<\/a>. To try to identify which was which, <sup>15<\/sup>N labelled hydroxylamine was used and then the <sup>15<\/sup>N-<sup>13<\/sup>C coupling constants were measured, which could either be <sup>1-bond<\/sup>J (for N-attack) or <sup>2-bond<\/sup>J (for O-attack).<\/p>\n<p>Well, 35 years later, literally in a dream on the morning of 7th June, 2022, these results came back to me and the dream involved wondering whether we had gotten the assignments of the N- and O-species the correct way around. You see we had assigned the larger of the <sup>15<\/sup>N-<sup>13<\/sup>C\u00a0couplings to the two bond (O-attack, species <strong>3<\/strong> below) rather than one-bond (N-attack, species <strong>4<\/strong> below) coupling. In 1987, the art of accurately computing such couplings was still in its infancy, but now in 2022 it is quick and easy to do. So here I report the results, which 35 years on allows a check of those assignments.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Screenshot-1192.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"25231\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=25231\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Screenshot-1192.jpg?fit=672%2C769&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"672,769\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Screenshot 1192\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Screenshot-1192.jpg?fit=262%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Screenshot-1192.jpg?fit=450%2C515&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25231\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Screenshot-1192.jpg?resize=262%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"262\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Screenshot-1192.jpg?resize=262%2C300&amp;ssl=1 262w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Screenshot-1192.jpg?w=672&amp;ssl=1 672w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 262px) 100vw, 262px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The necessary calculations are assembled at FAIR DOI: <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/hpc\/10593\">10.14469\/hpc\/10593<\/a> conducted at the \u03c9B97XD\/aug-cc-pvdz\/scrf=acetonitrile level. Firstly, it is important that the conformational space of these molecules is explored, since they contain a plethora of interesting anomeric effects.\u00a0I will not discuss this process, simply quoting what\u00a0I believe to be the lowest energy conformation for both isomers.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"25251\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=25251\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?fit=1321%2C689&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1321,689\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?fit=300%2C156&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?fit=450%2C235&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-25251\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?w=400&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?resize=1024%2C534&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?resize=300%2C156&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?resize=768%2C401&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?w=1321&amp;ssl=1 1321w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/3.jpg?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"25252\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=25252\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?fit=1189%2C1067&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1189,1067\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"4\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?fit=300%2C269&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?fit=450%2C404&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-25252\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?w=300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?resize=1024%2C919&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?resize=300%2C269&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?resize=768%2C689&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?w=1189&amp;ssl=1 1189w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/4.jpg?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<table style=\"width: 43%;\" border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">#<\/th>\n<th style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">Property<\/th>\n<th style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\">Species 3<\/th>\n<th style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\">Species 4<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">1<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">\u0394G<sub>298<\/sub><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\">-608.600542<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\">-608.598472<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">2<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">\u0394G<sub>215<\/sub><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\">-608.586956<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\">-608.585163<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">3<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">NBO E(2)<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\">14.3,19.4,10.9,8.1<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\">10.0,11.2,9.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">4<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">\u03b4<sub>C<\/sub> obs<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\">94.3 ppm<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\">85.0 ppm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">5<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">\u03b4<sub>C<\/sub> calc<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\">97.2 (\u0394\u03b4 2.9)<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\">88.1 (\u0394\u03b4 3.1)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">6<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">J<sub>N-C<\/sub> obs<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\"><sup>2<\/sup>J \u00b12.5 Hz<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\"><sup>1<\/sup>J \u00b11.3 Hz<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 4.62046204620462%;\">7<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 23.762376237623762%;\">J<sub>N-C<\/sub> calc<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.993399339933994%;\"><sup>2<\/sup>J +1.7<\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.663366336633665%;\"><sup>1<\/sup>J +0.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<ol>\n<li>The relative free energies \u0394\u0394G<sub>298<\/sub>\u00a0favour <strong>3<\/strong> over <strong>4<\/strong> by\u00a01.3 kcal\/mol at 298K (9:1). The article notes that <strong>3<\/strong> is <em>significantly<\/em> favoured over <strong>4<\/strong> at higher temperatures (i.e. ~298K) but that the concentration of <strong>4<\/strong> increases at lower temperatures.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>At 215K, \u0394\u0394G<sub>215<\/sub>\u00a0reduces to 1.1 kcal\/mol, but this equates to 13:1 at this temperature.\u00a0\u0394\u0394G<sub>215<\/sub> would need to be about 0.8 kcal\/mol for <strong>4<\/strong> to increase (6.5:1), but these are small errors in energy and a more accurate calculation would have to be done to get this aspect correct.<\/li>\n<li>The NBO E(2) terms indicating overlap between a lone pair and an acceptor orbital (the anomeric effect), show a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=14161\">dazzling variety of interactions<\/a> for such a small molecule. Species <strong>3<\/strong> shows four significant interactions, species <strong>4<\/strong>\u00a0one less.<\/li>\n<li>The chemical shifts measured for <strong>3<\/strong> and <strong>4<\/strong> &#8211;<\/li>\n<li>&#8211; are matched by the calculation, the error being similar for both species.<\/li>\n<li>The <sup>15<\/sup>N-<sup>13<\/sup>C coupling constants &#8211;<\/li>\n<li>&#8211; are again matched, with the <sup>1<\/sup>J coupling being about half the value of the <sup>2<\/sup>J coupling for both obs and calculated values.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>The nature of modern scientific research, and the funding available for it, means that old work is rarely re-investigated using more recent techniques. In this case, the reinvestigation does not require the molecules to be re-synthesized again, merely that a retrospective computational layer be applied. As a result of my dream of four days ago, this process has produced an interesting new layer which thankfully confirms the original conclusions.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-25227-0\">A.M. Lobo, M.M. Marques, S. Prabhakar, and H.S. Rzepa, \"Tetrahedral intermediates formed by nitrogen and oxygen attack of aromatic hydroxylamines on acetyl cyanide\", <i>The Journal of Organic Chemistry<\/i>, vol. 52, pp. 2925-2927, 1987. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/jo00389a050\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/jo00389a050<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 25227 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Minds (and memories) can work in wonderful ways. In 1987 we were looking at the properties of &#8220;stable&#8221; tetrahedral intermediates formed in carbonyl group reactions. The reaction involved adding phenylhydroxylamine to acetyl cyanide. NMR signals for two new species were detected, and we surmised one was due to N-attack on the carbonyl and one was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1085],"tags":[1526],"class_list":["post-25227","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-reaction-mechanism-2","tag-interesting-chemistry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1gPyz-6yT","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25227","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=25227"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25227\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=25227"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=25227"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=25227"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}