{"id":28615,"date":"2025-05-20T09:56:50","date_gmt":"2025-05-20T08:56:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=28615"},"modified":"2025-05-20T09:56:50","modified_gmt":"2025-05-20T08:56:50","slug":"5-imino-5%ce%bb4-heptathiepane-3-oxide-more-exuberent-anomeric-effects","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?p=28615","title":{"rendered":"5-Imino-5\u03bb<sup>4<\/sup>-heptathiepane 3-oxide. More exuberent anomeric effects."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"28615\">\n<p>The two previous \u00a0posts<span id=\"cite_ITEM-28615-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-28615-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-28615-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-28615-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span> on the topic of anomeric effects in 7-membered sulfur rings illustrated how orbital interactions between the lone pairs in the molecules and S-S bonds produced widely varying S-S bond lengths in the molecules, some are shorter than normal (which is ~2.05\u00c5 for <em>e.g.<\/em> the S<sub>8<\/sub> ring) by ~ 0.1\u00c5 and some are longer by ~0.24\u00c5. Here we extend this to the unknown molecule shown below.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Anomeric1.svg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-28616\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Anomeric1.svg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The usual \u00a0MN15L\/Def2-TZVPP calculation<span id=\"cite_ITEM-28615-2\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-28615-2\">[3]<\/a><\/span> gives the calculated geometry shown below. In parentheses are the calculated S-S vibrational wavenumbers (some are marked with ~ since these modes are contaminated by mixing with other parts of the molecules).<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"28618\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=28618\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?fit=1920%2C1648&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1648\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"S7ONH\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?fit=300%2C258&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?fit=450%2C386&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-28618\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?w=450&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?resize=300%2C258&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?resize=1024%2C879&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?resize=768%2C659&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?resize=1536%2C1318&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/S7ONH.jpg?w=1350&amp;ssl=1 1350w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The interaction energies between the donor and acceptor, E(2), are shown below. Numbers 5-8 are the same as was identified for the parent molecule S<sub>7<\/sub>, but the energies have increased substantially (previously 12.3\/10.1 kcal\/mol). The Wiberg bond index for the strongest bond (S2-S3) is 1.276 and the weakest (S1-S2) is 0.610, quite some variation! Given that the known S<sub>7<\/sub>O was already very unstable<span id=\"cite_ITEM-28615-3\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-28615-3\">[4]<\/a><\/span>, it seems unlikely that the probably even more unstable S<sub>7<\/sub>ONH could ever be isolated, but there is a challenge!<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>#<\/th>\n<th>Acceptor S-S bond<\/th>\n<th>Donor Lp<\/th>\n<th>NBO E(2) Energy<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>S4-S5<\/td>\n<td>O8<\/td>\n<td>31.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>S1-S2<\/td>\n<td>N9<\/td>\n<td>29.6<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>S1-S6<\/td>\n<td>N9<\/td>\n<td>27.0<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>S5-S6<\/td>\n<td>O8<\/td>\n<td>20.4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>5<\/td>\n<td>S4-S5<\/td>\n<td>S7<\/td>\n<td>16.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>6<\/td>\n<td>S1-S2<\/td>\n<td>S3<\/td>\n<td>16.4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>S3-S7<\/td>\n<td>S2<\/td>\n<td>15.4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>S3-S7<\/td>\n<td>S4<\/td>\n<td>15.2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>There are numerous compounds with six, seven and eight membered sulfur rings, and it would always be worth keeping an eye out for unusually short or long S-S bonds in them, since they may well be more manifestations of these sulfur anomeric effects.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-28615-0\">H. Rzepa, \"Cycloheptasulfur sulfoxide, S&lt;sub&gt;7&lt;\/sub&gt;O \u2013 Anomeric effects galore!\", 2025. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.59350\/rzepa.28515\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.59350\/rzepa.28515<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-28615-1\">H. Rzepa, \"Cyclo-Heptasulfur, S&lt;sub&gt;7&lt;\/sub&gt; \u2013 a classic anomeric effect discovered during a pub lunch!\", 2025. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.59350\/rzepa.28407\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.59350\/rzepa.28407<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-28615-2\">H. Rzepa, \"S7O2 NBO7 Cs symmetry\", 2025. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/hpc\/15235\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/hpc\/15235<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-28615-3\">R. Steudel, R. Reinhardt, and T. Sandow, \"Bond Interaction in Sulfur Rings: Crystal and Molecular Structure of &lt;i&gt;cyclo&lt;\/i&gt;\u2010Heptasulfur Oxide, S&lt;sub&gt;7&lt;\/sub&gt;O\", <i>Angewandte Chemie International Edition in English<\/i>, vol. 16, pp. 716-716, 1977. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1002\/anie.197707161\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1002\/anie.197707161<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 28615 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The two previous \u00a0posts, on the topic of anomeric effects in 7-membered sulfur rings illustrated how orbital interactions between the lone pairs in the molecules and S-S bonds produced widely varying S-S bond lengths in the molecules, some are shorter than normal (which is ~2.05\u00c5 for e.g. the S8 ring) by ~ 0.1\u00c5 and some [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28615","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interesting-chemistry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1gPyz-7rx","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28615","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=28615"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28615\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=28615"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=28615"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=28615"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}