{"id":4224,"date":"2011-05-31T06:51:24","date_gmt":"2011-05-31T06:51:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4224"},"modified":"2011-05-31T06:51:24","modified_gmt":"2011-05-31T06:51:24","slug":"deja-vu-all-over-again-h-h-interactions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?p=4224","title":{"rendered":"D\u00e9j\u00e0 vu all over again. Are H&#8230;H interactions attractive or repulsive?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"4224\">\n<p>The Pirkle reagent is a 9-anthranyl derivative (X=OH, Y=CF<sub>3<\/sub>). T<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4153\" target=\"_blank\">he previous post<\/a> on the topic had highlighted DIST1, the separation of the two hydrogen atoms shown below. The next question to ask is how general this feature is. Here we take a look at the distribution of lengths found in the Cambridge data base, and focus on another interesting example.<\/p>\n<p><div id=\"attachment_4229\" style=\"width: 228px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4229\" data-attachment-id=\"4229\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=4229\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/9-anthranyl1.jpg?fit=653%2C514&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"653,514\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"9-anthranyl\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;9-anthranyl derivatives&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/9-anthranyl1.jpg?fit=300%2C236&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/9-anthranyl1.jpg?fit=450%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4229\" title=\"9-anthranyl\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/pirkle109.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/pirkle109.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;select atomno=59,atomno=61,atomno=28,atomno=30,atomno=16,atomno=21;halo on;measure 59 61;measure 28 30;measure 28 18;measure 16 21;measure 21 20;zoom  140;');\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/9-anthranyl1.jpg?resize=218%2C171\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/9-anthranyl1.jpg?w=653&amp;ssl=1 653w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/9-anthranyl1.jpg?resize=300%2C236&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4229\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">9-anthranyl derivatives. Click for  Pirkle with normalised  C-H lengths.<\/p><\/div>The histogram below shows all 9-anthranyl compounds in the CCDC database distributed by DIST1. The search was conducted with the restrictions of no disorder, no &#8220;errors&#8221;, and using normalised hydrogen bond lengths. A note of explanation for the latter. Because of the nature of x-ray diffraction, when a C-H distance is obtained from a structural refinement, it tends to emerge ~0.1\u00c5 to short. Normalisation means adjusting that distance to a more correct 1.09\u00c5 (the heavy atom stays put, its the \u00a0H that moves). In our case, this has the effect of actually shortening DIST1. In the Pirkle structure (shortcode SOCLIF) the nominal value for DIST1 is 1.94-1.96\u00c5, but normalisation reduces these to 1.82-1.85\u00c5. This really is an unusually short contact between two hydrogen atoms (the sum of the vdW radii is 2.4\u00c5). So how unusual might this be? Show below is the result of the CCDC search.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4227\" style=\"width: 374px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4227\" data-attachment-id=\"4227\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=4227\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H1.jpg?fit=728%2C334&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"728,334\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"H&#8230;H\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;H&#8230;H Contacts in  9-anthranyl derivatives&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H1.jpg?fit=300%2C137&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H1.jpg?fit=450%2C206&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4227\" title=\"H...H\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H1.jpg?resize=364%2C167\" alt=\"\" width=\"364\" height=\"167\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H1.jpg?w=728&amp;ssl=1 728w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H1.jpg?resize=300%2C137&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 364px) 100vw, 364px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4227\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">H...H Contacts in  9-anthranyl derivatives<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Notice how a maximum in the number of examples is visible at ~1.9\u00c5, but examples all the way down to ~1.7\u00c5 are known! If one restricts the search to examples where X=O, the following plot is obtained. The entry on the bottom left is JARYEG, where Y is sufficiently large to enforce short H&#8230;H or O&#8230;H contacts on both sides. Click on the histogram picture below to see it. When you do so, you will also see the  NCI surface computed at this geometry. Note that both the  short H..H (DIST1)  and the short  O&#8230;H (DIST2) interaction surfaces are coloured blue, indicating attractive contacts!<\/p>\n<p><div id=\"attachment_4230\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4230\" data-attachment-id=\"4230\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=4230\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H2.jpg?fit=731%2C278&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"731,278\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"H&#8230;H2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;9-anthranyl derivatives,  X=O.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H2.jpg?fit=300%2C114&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H2.jpg?fit=450%2C171&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4230\" title=\"H...H2\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/jaryeg.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/jaryeg.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;select atomno=42,atomno=53,atomno=35,atomno=24,atomno=41,atomno=58;halo on;measure 42 53;measure 35 24;measure 41 58;measure 42 31;zoom  150;');\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H2.jpg?resize=400%2C152\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H2.jpg?w=731&amp;ssl=1 731w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/H...H2.jpg?resize=300%2C114&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4230\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">9-anthranyl derivatives,  X=O.<\/p><\/div>If you explore the  3D model further, you will notice other blue interaction surfaces, and a number which have both blue  AND orange (= repulsive) zones.   We see here yet another example of a weak interaction being simultaneously both attractive and repulsive.  It is no longer sufficient to say that the interaction between two atoms is either one or the other. Depending on where you measure it, it can be both!  In other words, even weak bonds can have internal structure (for a discussion of the internal structure of a strong C-S bond, see DOI <a href=\"http:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1021\/ct100470g\" target=\"_blank\">10.1021\/ct100470g<\/a>).<\/p>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 4224 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Pirkle reagent is a 9-anthranyl derivative (X=OH, Y=CF3). The previous post on the topic had highlighted DIST1, the separation of the two hydrogen atoms shown below. The next question to ask is how general this feature is. Here we take a look at the distribution of lengths found in the Cambridge data base, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6],"tags":[498,59,517,216,389],"class_list":["post-4224","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interesting-chemistry","tag-9-anthranyl","tag-cambridge","tag-disorder","tag-julia-contreras-garcia","tag-x-ray"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1gPyz-168","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4224","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4224"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4224\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4224"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4224"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4224"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}