{"id":8925,"date":"2013-01-05T18:22:44","date_gmt":"2013-01-05T18:22:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=8925"},"modified":"2013-01-05T18:22:44","modified_gmt":"2013-01-05T18:22:44","slug":"%cf%80-hydrogen-bonds-as-a-function-of-ring-size","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?p=8925","title":{"rendered":"\u03c0-hydrogen bonds as a function of ring size."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"8925\">\n<p>A simple correlation between a ring size and the hydrogen bonding as quantified by the O(Lp)\/H-O \u03c3* NBO interaction in that ring,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=8860\" target=\"_blank\">indicated<\/a> a 7- or 8-membered ring was preferred over smaller ones. Here is the same study, but this time using the \u03c0-electrons of an alkene as the electron donor.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"8926\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=8926\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/pi-hbond.svg\" data-orig-size=\"\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"[]\" data-image-title=\"pi-hbond\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/pi-hbond.svg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/pi-hbond.svg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8926\" alt=\"pi-hbond\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/pi-hbond.svg\" \/><\/p>\n<table class=\"aligncenter\" border=\"1\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>n\u00a0<\/th>\n<th>E(2), kcal\/mol\u00a0<\/th>\n<th>O&#8230;H length, \u00c5\u00a0<\/th>\n<th>Angle,\u00b0<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/hdl.handle.net\/10.6084\/m9.figshare.105916\" target=\"_blank\">0.84<\/a><\/td>\n<td>2.54, 2.75<\/td>\n<td>107.4, 126.7<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/hdl.handle.net\/10.6084\/m9.figshare.105913\" target=\"_blank\">1.37<\/a><\/td>\n<td>2.35, 2.92<\/td>\n<td>133.1, 152.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/hdl.handle.net\/10.6084\/m9.figshare.105915\" target=\"_blank\">2.04<\/a><\/td>\n<td>2.45, 2.63<\/td>\n<td>139.1, 144.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>5<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/hdl.handle.net\/10.6084\/m9.figshare.105914\" target=\"_blank\">1.89<\/a><\/td>\n<td>2.56, 2.63<\/td>\n<td>152.2, 138.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>The E(2) interaction energies between the NBO filled \u03c0-orbital localised to the alkene and the H-O \u03c3* are significantly smaller than for O(Lp) as donors. The energy gap between the donor and acceptor\u00a0orbitals is smaller for\u00a0\u03c0 (\u0394E=0.919) than for the O&#8230;HO (0.969 au) and if one can compare these values across different localisations, then the finger must point to reduced overlap as the more probable explanation.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_8476\" style=\"width: 220px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8476\" data-attachment-id=\"8933\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=8933\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?fit=434%2C324&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"434,324\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"7pi\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?fit=300%2C223&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?fit=434%2C324&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8933\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/');jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([500,500],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi_mo27.cub.xyz;connect (atomno=14) (atomno=16) PARTIAL;connect (atomno=14) (atomno=15) PARTIAL;isosurface color purple orange wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi_mo27.cub.jvxl translucent;isosurface append color red blue wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi_mo46.cub.jvxl translucent;zoom 80;');\" alt=\"7pi\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?w=210\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?w=434&amp;ssl=1 434w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?resize=300%2C223&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 434px) 100vw, 434px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-8476\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">NBO interaction for 7-ring H-bond. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>So does that mean that \u03c0 bonds do not form? Well take a look at <a href=\"http:\/\/hdl.handle.net\/10.6084\/m9.figshare.105922\" target=\"_blank\">this molecule<\/a>:<span id=\"cite_ITEM-8925-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-8925-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span>, which exhibits one example of a\u00a0\u03c0-bond and one of a conventional O&#8230;HO bond. E(2) for the\u00a0\u03c0 interaction is now 6.6 kcal\/mol, and the C&#8230;H distance is 2.16\u00c5 (calc, 2.1-2.2\u00c5\u00a0at its shortest, obs).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"8937\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=8937\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK.jpg?fit=560%2C288&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"560,288\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"WAK\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK.jpg?fit=300%2C154&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK.jpg?fit=450%2C231&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-8937\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/');jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([500,500],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAKWEM.cif;measure 2 7;measure 2 9;');\" alt=\"WAK\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK.jpg?resize=336%2C173\" width=\"336\" height=\"173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK.jpg?w=560&amp;ssl=1 560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK.jpg?resize=300%2C154&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_8476\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8476\" data-attachment-id=\"8933\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=8933\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?fit=434%2C324&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"434,324\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"7pi\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?fit=300%2C223&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/7pi.jpg?fit=434%2C324&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8933\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/');jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([500,500],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAG_pi-0.382-mo80.cub.xyz;connect (atomno=14) (atomno=16) PARTIAL;connect (atomno=14) (atomno=15) PARTIAL;isosurface color orange purple wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAG_pi-0.382-mo80.cub.jvxl translucent;isosurface append color red blue wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAP_OH.520_mo121.cub.jvxl translucent;zoom 80;');\" alt=\"7pi\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK-NBO.jpg?w=300\"  \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-8476\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">NBO interaction for 7-ring H-bond. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>There are probably several reasons for this.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The geometry of the scaffold enforces close proximity of the alkene and the OH group. The geometry of the scaffold results in a greater overlap of the C=C \u03c0 and H-O\u00a0\u03c3*\u00a0NBOs.\u00a0Recollect however the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=5040\" target=\"_blank\">H&#8230;H distance in cis-butene<\/a>, a proximity that was enforced by other effects and which I argued was NOT a chemical bond.<\/li>\n<li>The energy gap between filled and empty NBOs is slightly reduced from 0.919 to to 0.902 au.<\/li>\n<li>This in turn may arise because the acceptor strength of the H-O\u00a0\u03c3* is enhanced by a knock-on effect by an additional conventional hydrogen bond the O (Lp) on this oxygen is forming to a H-O of a second molecular unit.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>So we may conclude that whilst strong\u00a0\u03c0 H-O hydrogen bonds can be observed, they arise for the molecule shown above from a co-operation of several affects associated with the specific environment, rather than the intrinsic propensity of this type of H-bond to form strong interactions. But one more surprise (perhaps, or possibly just a further insight). The NCI (non-covalent-interactions) surface.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_8947\" style=\"width: 395px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8947\" data-attachment-id=\"8947\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/?attachment_id=8947\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK-nci.jpg?fit=642%2C400&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"642,400\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"WAK-nci\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Non-covelent-interactions surface. Click for  3D.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK-nci.jpg?fit=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK-nci.jpg?fit=450%2C280&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-8947 \" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/');jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([500,500],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAG-2_den.cub.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAG-2_den.cub.jvxl;');\" alt=\"Non-covelent-interactions surface. Click for 3D.\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK-nci.jpg?resize=385%2C240\" width=\"385\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK-nci.jpg?w=642&amp;ssl=1 642w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/WAK-nci.jpg?resize=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 385px) 100vw, 385px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-8947\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Non-covalent-interactions (NCI) surface. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This maps the character of the (electron) density gradients, and shows up as blue (attractive) and red (repulsive). Four different regions show up as blue. Arrow 1 is our\u00a0C=C \u03c0&#8230;H-O bond. Note how adjacent to the blue region is a green-yellow one, indicating weak repulsions there (this proximity of both attractive and repulsive regions of the density was suggested to account for the confusion surrounding the \u00a0H&#8230;H interaction in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=5040\" target=\"_blank\">cis-butene<\/a>). Blue on its own however occurs in the region indicated by \u00a0arrow \u00a02. In this, the conventional \u00a0O&#8230;H-O attraction has no associated repulsion, which may also be an explanation for why such bonds are far more common. But the surprise is arrow 3, which suggests attractive back donation from the O(Lp) to the \u03c0* empty orbital (E(2) 1.4 kcal\/mol) \u00a0and arrow 4 indicates an attractive donation from the C=C\u00a0\u03c0 to the \u00a0C=O\u00a0\u03c0* (E(2) = 0.6 kcal\/mol). In this particularly rigid system, all these are largely enforced by the atom-scaffold. but it does all show how we often miss noticing the weaker interactions in molecules.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-8925-0\">M. Etzkorn, S.D. Smeltz-Zapata, T.B. Meyers, X. Yu, and M. Gerken, \"From the anti-tricyclo[4.2.1.12,5]deca-3,7-diene framework to 4,5,6,7-tetrachloro-isoindenone derivatives\", <i>Tetrahedron Letters<\/i>, vol. 51, pp. 6075-6077, 2010. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.tetlet.2010.09.045\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.tetlet.2010.09.045<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 8925 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A simple correlation between a ring size and the hydrogen bonding as quantified by the O(Lp)\/H-O \u03c3* NBO interaction in that ring,\u00a0indicated a 7- or 8-membered ring was preferred over smaller ones. Here is the same study, but this time using the \u03c0-electrons of an alkene as the electron donor. n\u00a0 E(2), kcal\/mol\u00a0 O&#8230;H length, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6],"tags":[150],"class_list":["post-8925","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interesting-chemistry","tag-energy-gap"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1gPyz-2jX","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8925","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8925"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8925\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8925"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8925"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rzepa.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8925"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}